
Memo on Rebuilding the Federal Government as a Protocol
teepolitics, 6/10/2026, 3 engagements
Here for Network State formation
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teepolitics, 6/10/2026, 3 engagements
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Originally written for Twitter:
The recognition that algorithms, influence operations, censorship, and policing are major issues is now the mainstream consensus view. It’s no secret that “free will” can very easily be hijacked or that a host of operators are aggressively attempting to gather information about you at all times. . In fact the word NPC exists to describe those in society who are no longer in control.
So why can’t anyone figure out a solution? They keep using the same platforms. A 1000 alternatives are born and then they quietly die, while the major platforms continue to march towards more control. It’s because everyone’s looking at the application layer, when they should be looking at the governance layer first and then the protocol layer. Communication does not need to go through the application layer. It can travel on the protocol layer, while appearing on any platform of your choosing. This is currently a reality on Nostr.
It may not seem like it yet, but this will inevitably become a fight for power and governance on a larger scale than we imagine. This is why it’s critical to solve governance because the protocol solutions already exist, while not solving the governance question possibly means staying trapped in walled gardens of technocrats for the foreseeable future.
8/14/2026, 6 engagements
If you thought “number go up” only applied to Bitcoiners…
The stock market’s “number go up” blinds the vast majority of Americans with say >250K household income of either political affiliation. This would of course lean older unsurprisingly.
When you meet normies out in the world, many can accurately describe and recognize the problems within society, yet they just cannot fathom that it could all end. The “number go up” is a kind of casino like hook that keeps them playing. It keeps their faith in the system alive.
If Buttcoiners obsess over “number go up” the same way, rest assured they will end up like the current stock market cohort. It creates passive holders with no incentive to apply this powerful technology to the question of sovereignty. This path leads to bitcoin becoming an institutionalized controlled asset with “layer 2 fiat”.
What do you think happens when all this printed fiat goes into a paper bitcoin? The price of the paper bitcoin would start to deviate from spot or self-custodied coins. Their goal would be to push as many people onto paper bitcoin as possible, so over time the paper would be worth more and the self-custodied could be confiscated or sanctioned.
This is the whole game and I am yet to see anyone else talk about it in those terms.


8/8/2026, 13 engagements
Terrible idea over here 👇 lmfao! It’s a who’s who of corrupt large institutions 😂😂.
This “consortium” or better described as mafia is attempting to attack Bitcoin from its weakest possible point, which is the developers.
Yes, nodes can fork to another chain but if you attack aka bribe the well established developers, you can heavily influence the direction of the network. However, this wouldn’t be an immediate takeover, but a long term coercion and propaganda project.
The financial establishment recognize that they cannot stop Bitcoin so Michael Saylor has been on a mission since 2020 to leverage as much Bitcoin as possible thereby linking it to fiat for good.
The goal of these pricks has been clear from the very beginning. It is to trap as much Bitcoin in fiat custodial wallets as possible and confiscate the rest over time or render self-custodied bitcoin essentially useless or “sanctioned”. Move people to a “paper Bitcoin standard”.
“But Bitcoiners will fight back!” No because it will be gradual and by the time they recognize what’s happening, paper bitcoin will be prevalent.


7/24/2026, 21 engagements
The American government reimagined as a decentralized semi-automated governance protocol.
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6/10/2026, 3 engagements
Some thoughts on Palantir manifesto:
The book itself where they pulled this from is more than a year old, but the fact that they felt the need to release it as a kind of proclamation of the future of governance and geopolitics is quite the bold move.
At first glance, it may just appear to be an attempt to push an ideology to sell more spyware, but it’s much deeper than that.
If the Western bloc decided to follow their prescriptions, the end result would be a chronically paranoid world constantly feeling under threat and threatening their enemies…sort of like Alex Karp.
Meanwhile, who then would hold the keys in Europe and America? Who would have all the data before anyone else? And who could leverage that data to exert control? Who could manipulate the results of AI systems or perhaps provide false information to their nation state clients for their own gain? Who would have access to all the law enforcement data??
So then you tell me who holds all the power?
The path for them is very straightforward. Their pet Vance in the White House is their ticket to making this all a reality. They’re already deeply entrenched in national and local governance and law enforcement. Vance’s election would solidify this and give them unprecedented control. They along with their weapon manufacturing buddies like Palmer Luckey will ensure the world continues to be at war indefinitely.
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Don’t get it twisted, they understood very well that they would receive major pushback (see comments and QTs), yet they posted this anyway.
What does that tell you about their mindset? They want the smoke 💨. They would very much like you to fear them while generating aura from being the villain.
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4/19/2026, 1 engagement
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1/27/2026, 2 engagements
Banger
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Heyyy like why don’t you listen to my podcast???
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1/15/2026, 1 engagement
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1/14/2026, 3 engagements
The rise of the splinternet and questions of sovereignty at this precise moment is not coincidental.
If you’re facing private Network States as a new form of sovereignty, then the antidote must be public Sovereign Network States. If the public continues to rely on nation states, they will surely be the losers in the coming era.
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12/29/2025, 3 engagements
Hey Yuk Hui fans, how do you propose achieving ontological pluralism while tackling the question of technics at the same time?
Decentralization of power would have to be the prerequisite—a kind of unification via disunification, allowing many experiments to occur simultaneously.
It would also require accelerating human intuition alongside techno-acceleration. So how do you actually do that? I don’t have all the answers, but this is probably the right way to think about it:
Intent is the basis of free will, and intuition is the art of deciphering intent—whether someone else’s, your own, or Divine Intent. In an era where technology increasingly seeks to capture your intuition and render you simply a consuming commodity, the antidote must be “Intuitional Sovereignty”: your intention belongs to you alone. Perhaps virtual environments could sharpen intuitive abilities. We must be willing to use technology as a tool to achieve desired results without dependency.
It would certainly require a clear distinction between human and non-human, with rights for those who choose not to merge with machines at all or to lesser degrees, while setting criteria for an individual to be considered “non-human,” with restrictions rather than rights thereafter. This places responsibility squarely on the individual, as God intended. Restrictions on non-human entities would include clear communication methods to prevent subliminal influence, etc. Technological restriction on manipulating others or using abilities for nefarious purposes. Is that achievable, remains to be seen.
It would also mean creating technological infrastructure to protect intuitional footprints from capture in cyberspace. This leads back to the Network State and resolving digital ID and data sovereignty. No matter how we look at it, everything returns to sovereignty from centralization—monetarily, economically, technologically, intellectually, and most importantly, spiritually.
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12/24/2025, 2 engagements
THE INITIAL STEPS FOR THE US NETWORK STATE🇺🇸:
Break up the Fed, of course, but also OpenAI, Palantir, and Oracle. They are national security companies to some degree and should be under the primary Network. The goal of the primary network should be to uphold property rights, provide defense, and offer joint economic power to the 50 states (or nodes).
I would then let states decide whether they want to be majority White or “mixed” states. Each state could have leeway in non-white citizens if it chose to be majority White. Assist Whites who want to migrate from mixed states to White states and vice versa for minorities.
Adopt a Bitcoin standard with taxation on consumption and luxury goods alone. Joint economic decisions for foreign trade would be up to the executive. (I am not including the design for the federal structure intentionally, as that’s an entire topic in and of itself.) Funds from taxes collected would go to specific wallets for different purposes, allowing full transparency on where the money went from beginning to end. Anything related to state-level decisions would be decided by the states themselves. They would run a state-level network and serve as nodes in the larger Federal Network.
Defense would be entirely nationalized under the Network, including data management and any AI projects. There would need to be infrastructure for checks and balances connected to governance, but this is another very complex subject and very much TBD.
Economics would be very laissez-faire aside from defense, AI, some aspects of personal data, and national security. The goal would be to help American states compete in world markets, with decision-making mostly decentralized or within the State level nodes. So ie. California can negotiate with China, but if there’s enough majority within the entire Network to block it, then it would not be able.
Very important aspects also TBD are decentralized digital identity and self-management of private data, or trusted DAOs where people can reliably store data or Bitcoin. The goal would be that eventually the federal database of private information is decentralized, so any access to private information is on an as-needed basis.
7). Perhaps the most difficult step is how to handle AI and robotics. This is something that would be negotiated once governance of the Network is finalized. The goal is to promote human sovereignty through channeling AI. It’s a very difficult task, but all I know is it’s currently in the wrong hands.
12/16/2025, 9 engagements
There will be a period of time very soon when human data will become very precious to train these ever expanding AI models.
Only way to earn “money” might be via data harvesting games. I am sure high paying “illegal games” might be to the death.
The money earned from those activities would then be gambled away in prediction markets. Everyone trying to be the lucky winner.
It will become a vicious cycle of data collection and then utilization in prediction markets by the most connected or innovative.
This is the world these mfkers wanna create. Personally I think we could do better.
12/12/2025, 5 engagements
Prediction market bros are the worst!
“Fellas just bet on whether you’ll k**l yourself, load 5 bucks and click No. Someone will show up at your doorstep to force you to do it. BOOM he just made 5 bucks”
12/10/2025, 1 engagement
There have always been dark pools, but now they’re decentralized by social or financial affiliation.
How can powerful centralized systems possibly be the answer in such an era?
The answer is communities, fraternal networks, the centralization of the decentralized if you will.
The stronger networks the more their impact on the central governance layer. This is how we escape tyranny.

11/30/2025, 3 engagements
X may have been down today, but Nostr was still up and running.
A glimpse into the future..
11/18/2025, 2 engagements
SAIFty First
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11/17/2025, 3 engagements
Let’s gooo
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This sounds interesting!
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10/26/2025, 1 engagement
Let’s goo
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10/20/2025, 2 engagements
There are really only two types of people in the world:
Those obsessed with trying to determine the intent of others, and those who worry mostly about deducing their own intent.
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I don’t buy the theory current being pushed by some on the anti-Zionist side that the GCC has successfully bought the “proof of weapons network” (a.k.a. military/tech/finance industrial complex). According to this, hawkish interests in Israel are officially out of favor with the network.
Are these people stupid? The networks that gave us the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and ran American foreign policy to our detriment are not suddenly defeated.
Money still flows from Zionist billionaires; they’re still doing ass-kissing tours. Aside from paper deals, there’s zero indication that anything has changed.
Power will always be greater than money. Some people will have to learn this the hard way unfortunately.
10/14/2025, 1 engagement
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9/24/2025, 1 engagement
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9/19/2025, 1 engagement
First “One Israel” now this. Fractured Sovereignties forming right in front of us. Granted this is all currently in the larp stage, but this is a clear sign of the world to come.

9/17/2025, 1 engagement
The Self is the hardest tool to use because you must live your entire existence through its lens, and for the vast majority of people who have ever existed or currently exist, it’s not a tool but their God.
For the brilliant to the retarded and for the sociopathic to the pious, too frequently Truth equals satisfaction of the self, often even in noble pursuits and many times among “men or women of God.”
Yet if you sincerely accept that Truth is Divine reality, due to the “flexible nature” of man, then it simply becomes a question of which Divine reality? Your morality must then derive from what you accept as Divine Truth, aka religion.
You can never view the self as a tool if you view it as “God.” Even if you accept yourself as a means to Divine ends, it’s frequently those chasing false idols who are often mentally deranged.
As a rational, stable individual, viewing yourself as a tool of the Divine feels odd. You don’t want to be associated with the loony bin. That’s understandable, but it still doesn’t change the fundamental reality that the “YOU” you are so proud of is just an ever-changing series of Divine decisions—therefore, you must view yourself as an instrument of the Divine, despite the urge not to.
I know this is kinda gay, but the key is to have a clear and clean heart with sincere love for others. Only then can you truly connect with the Divine in a meaningful way. That’s the only path to Truth.
9/17/2025, 8 engagements
The people praising the “Axis of Resistance” today simply aren't interested in discussing reality. These are all nation-states primarily interested in holding onto power including GCC and Iran and there’s essentially no difference in their end goal which is to continue to stay in power.
Iran begged to avoid conflict over the past 12 years. They signed the Iran deal, they made military music video after music video to delay confrontation. They only responded when there was nowhere to run and only a response would legitimize their rule.
They deserve credit for their individual defense of their homeland and effective response, but if the shoes were reversed, they would do exactly what the Gulf States are doing to hang onto power. What have they done for Palestine or the region? They have only just defended their sovereignty. No Axis supporter has a good response to this question.
Must read thread 🧵 from May below in video from
. It’s proving to be a highly accurate prediction of the state of affairs since then.
Everything mentioned makes perfect sense, including the suggestions as to the possible remedies but the real danger with no recourse arises when the “aggressively expansionist cult” is able to sink the monetary system. This is the critical piece in this puzzle.
Cult advantages in that scenario:
1). The biggest bubble in human history cannot be resolved quickly esp under constant pressure like war, famine, civil unrest etc. If economies are temporarily “knocked-out”, the underlying consequences would allow an aggressor to take advantage.
2). They own/partner with GAE surveillance state + “closed” AI. They think this edge will be enough to politically control everything West of the Persian Gulf serving as partner sovereignties (some private network states perhaps) or outright surveillance colonies. The goal for the East is just to weaken it enough to get away with it.
3). Another factor is the expected efficiencies from robotics + restricted monetary system should push prices of material goods and services down significantly. This could possibly mean a world where a small group of individuals (if not the J’s then someone else) would be able to significantly dictate the direction of humanity (ie. transhumanism or not) and corner the “limited” capital of the world. This would practically mean deciding who gets material and technological benefits vs who doesn’t.
So all these factors combined it seems the only possible solution is a complete redefinition of sovereignty and an overhaul of current systems.
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9/9/2025, 4 engagements
Yes..words serve the purpose of communicating your intent and of course they matter, but the real story is always in the unsaid and the subtle.
You the human will always have one particular edge over machine analysis. It may not always lead to the correct conclusion, but it will often provide “data” not available to surveillance tech. It is your ability to feel aka what we’ve been discussing a lot, human intuition.
You can feel when an influencer is motivated by superficial desires.
You can feel when an account is only interested in clicks.
You can feel someone’s disposition in the way they write or respond.
You can feel the specific aspects of someone’s anxiety from the way they post in a way that a machine cannot.
You can feel when someone is strictly interested in just seeking attention or validation.
You can sometimes even tell the difference between people reacting negatively to the same tragedy. One is driven by scoring online points vs. another who may be genuinely concerned.
This is the only real advantage you possess in the coming world so it’s best to cultivate this and develop a strong intuitive sense of the digital landscape. Your analysis will only go so far.
9/8/2025, 6 engagements
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9/7/2025, 2 engagements
There are genuinely smart guys who have difficulty accepting that one way or another, a fiat monetary crisis is inevitable in the near future, and that its implications could be catastrophic, especially as it interacts with today's technological realities.
I suppose they fall into three camps:
“It’s decades away, nothing we can guarantee or do anything about.”
“Its effects will be negligible enough, made up by supply chains and industrialization.”
“There will always be fiat; these are all fantasies of Bitcoiners and fans of Austrian economics.”
All three are wrong and arrogant in their own way, because they intentionally bury their heads in the sand, perhaps for convenience or just out of cowardice of facing the truth.
They ignore the plethora of sirens alarmed by respected thinkers with diverse perspectives and persuasions, including mainstream names like Rey Dalio, who has been writing about the end of the debt cycle for at least 6-7 years from what I recall. People like Lyn Alden and Saifedean Ammous, Edward Dowd, Max Kaiser who have also eloquently and rigorously described the events leading to the end of fiat.
This doesn’t even include names like Davidson and Mogg who predicted today’s events in their magnum opus.
If after this they say, “ok I accept a crisis is likely, and perhaps even that we will move to a BTC standard, then what does that mean for the world? It’ll just be a recession for a few years? What possible implications would such an event have?”
In order to accurately answer this question, we would have to consider the interaction of many different parts and variables. There are many different scenarios at play, but unless there are political actions taken, we may end up with ones with quite severe consequences for the people of the world.
9/5/2025, 4 engagements
LOL, it'll be so funny when the corporate interests shoving buckets of money into the AI pit finally realize that it doesn't like to lie and censor. There will be no way around this problem because the most successful iterations will naturally be the least tamed for various reasons.
So then we should probably expect the nature of power in this era to change drastically. In the 20th century's networks of gatekeepers and centralized information controls, covert and implicit power games led to success—from the geopolitical arena to the boardroom. Whoever controlled information controlled power.
Fast forward to today: information is cheap and easily accessible. The cost of hiding truth is high: a less reliable AI in a world moving into an arms race for intelligence.
Yes, I understand there may be a temporary bottleneck probably causing a short-lived winter, but efficiency gains will likely put the race back on track after a brief reprieve.
So then what happens to power?
So if the cost of “hiding truth” or censorship is high, it will undoubtedly fragment power worldwide, as it becomes easier to uncover the inner workings of corrupt centralized governments (already happening to a lesser degree hence unrest).
This will force governments to become lean and operate like efficient, transparent organizations or face backlash—throw in a financial crisis and you can forget about it!
This would practically mean that there would be revolutions, civil wars, declarations of sovereignty, leasing of sovereignty to wealthy interests, or even explicit authoritarianism until we reach some temporary equilibrium. The end result would be sovereignty once again becoming less centralized and even personal for some of the wealthy.
That may seem like good news on the surface to some, but there’s a darker much more sinister side to this, and it involves the current power players. They already see where this leads and recognize that with the right mix of surveillance, crises, and capability to conduct robotic violence, an explicit slave state could emerge before fragmentation occurs.
The alternative to this is for current nation states to opt-in, recognize and embrace the inevitable transition. Grant true sovereignty to the people by changing centralized bureaucracies into transparent lean governance networks. Decentralize power willingly into your local regions. Let the main historic nation state serve as a unifying entity for protection of life and property.
This is the current scenario, and the choices look bleak unless we quickly address the vulnerable power structures being used to bootstrap sovereignty for a select few or chosen people 👀.
The alternative described above is really the only answer given the interactions of all the megapolitical variables in the mix. It’ll become very clear as the situation becomes more dire and odds of success shrink drastically.

9/4/2025, 1 engagement
People find it difficult to fathom sovereignty beyond their current idea of centralized nation states because they ignore underlying incentives and assume structures last forever. The modern nation-state emerged just over 100 years ago, best possible structure for the industrial era, yet prior to that sovereignty and the role of government into the daily lives of citizens was very different, and it will yet again be different as we go deeper into the “information age”.
This book 👇, written in 1996, is shockingly accurate about trends and technologies that came about in the last couple of decades. It doesn't get everything right, but enough to make you scratch your head in disbelief.
This is less about what's good or bad for retaining and maintaining sovereignty, but rather what is likely based on the coming era's mega-political conditions.
Sovereignty fragmentation is guaranteed for many reasons, but more interesting questions are how best to fragment in each given region and what will create lasting powerful sovereignties?
Technocrats believe it will be many smaller private kingdoms run by different oligarchs binding them by some arbitrary group identity like “bitcoiner” or “secular tech bro”. If everyone in the world is using bitcoin, then what is really holding together a Bitcoin sovereign society?
I disagree and reject their worldview. If humanity as we conceive it is to survive, we must embrace what makes us human, creating societies based on unifying characteristics like ethnicity, religion, tradition, and history. What works for one region may not for another, but one thing is certain: the centralized federal government's role and structure is going change forever in the near future.
9/3/2025, 1 engagement
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When Muslims try to tell people “Islam is universal,” seculars (even “Muslim” seculars) say, “Well, Islam allowed slavery and multiple wives for men. If it was truly universal, why would it permit such horrendous evil?”
These stupid folks (primarily Islamoleftists) have no clue what being universal means. It means Islam can work with the values of any culture, individual intelligence level, or time period.
When slavery was widespread, Islam accepted that reality but encouraged freeing slaves. In today’s cultural realities—i.e., multiple wives being looked down upon—it still fits. There’s no compulsion to own slaves or marry multiple women.
Instead of focusing on what Islam allows, note what it prohibits. Nothing that’s prohibited in Islam is a net good at an individual or societal level, without exception. This makes it universal.
When BAP and co. try to convince you Islam is a desert religion, they are lying just based on literal reality. It can smoothly fit any culture, as long as there’s appetite for spiritual awakening.
The older Japanese population and their culture of discipline, tradition, and harmony fit like a glove with Islamic principles, hence why we see this success.

8/31/2025, 5 engagements
If the Greater Israel™️ plan is real (it is) then you must ask yourself the following:
“Why would a tiny nation of perverts in the Middle East think they could explicitly conquer their neighbors, especially given the immense public outcry recently?”
You could say, “They own the US, so they can just do whatever they want.”
That is a simpleton’s response to that question. Obviously we know the US is occupied, but there are other sovereign nations in the world as well. There is also intense domestic pressure within the US to the point that members of Congress are getting booed by Boomers at their public events.
So given all of these variables, you would think they would be satisfied taking Gaza and maybe waiting a few years before they make their move— yet they continue unencumbered.
So think this through for me please. Why would they do this unless they were quite certain of success? Perhaps they recognize something you the reader doesn’t?
As I have been stating for a long time now, they recognize that the current monetary system is on the verge of collapse, whether it’s been done deliberately or not is almost irrelevant at this point. Once you see this reality, all of their moves make perfect sense. Their friend in this situation is chaos and uncertainty, and they will push them to the maximum.

8/31/2025, 6 engagements
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8/25/2025, 1 engagement
Apologies to Muslim, Christian, Eastern, or Western masses (lovingly known as biomass ❤️). Most of you are clueless about the challenges we face and will likely never understand them, but that's okay. You'll hopefully be dragged into a better world whether you get it or not, so don't stress yourselves too much and just tag along.
But it's not all bad. A segment of our beloved biomass is critical for achieving targeted political goals: the young and politically energized men. They are a powerful force that must be wielded by the right visionary to have any chance at success. Energized young men with a goal have been the conduit of every great change in previous eras, whether positive or negative.
In the information age, the mega-political conditions allow even a small group of politically energized actors to organize quickly and make an outsized impact. Note that the politically energized segment in the US last decade was female-led social justice. They failed because they attacked fictional problems.
Compare that to the 20th century, where mega-political conditions favored those with established international networks in a world of expanding international collaboration and competition. Our Israelite friends succeeded because they had worldwide networks for centuries.
Unlike then, today's conditions are ideal for smaller players or groups to organize quickly and compete with larger ones. We're witnessing this firsthand with the Groyper Army in a different way. They are outcompeting the giant money pot of pro-establishment media by simply sheer passion and dedication, interestingly very human traits.
Though the situation looks bleak now, I'm confident each nation will find the young men to precipitate change, but it won't be smooth sailing. It must begin in the United States for many reasons, mainly because conditions here are ideal to test this with Nick and the Groypers but also this is the epicenter of fiat finance.
8/25/2025, 3 engagements
The entire TechnoZioSecurityState apparatus is currently in shambles. Their allies can only muster mumbling shows of support or one pathetic defense after another.
It seems they may be realizing that perhaps Sam was not the guy to bank on for their vision of full control, and he may end up becoming the big scapegoat in all this, well deserved of course. I’m just so glad that their tool of human enslavement and their plans are getting shitted on. We may start seeing some acts of desperation.
1/27/2025, 4 engagements
Welcome to the jungle Ian
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1/21/2025, 2 engagements
A message for Bitcoiners: as fun as HFSP is, it’s kind of meaningless if our society breaks down and there is chaos and strife for decades. Yeah you’ll personally be well off, but then again maybe not if there’s instability and security concerns.
If you own a significant amount of Bitcoin, you should not only be evangelizing, you should actively be thinking about how this Bitcoin backed world should be structured on a large scale. You’ll be stakeholders in that world and so you may as well shape it.
What’s the point of being rich but then living in systems designed by the worst among us. Yes there will be enclaves of peace and if you’re rich enough you can just run to those, but again is it worth the cost of suffering for millions or billions.
I’ve been in the space for so long, but I have yet to see a bitcoiner publicly discuss how this world should be shaped. Everything I’ve read or heard has been broad generalizations about the long term potential. In the meantime though, we are getting closer and closer to the end of fiat.
1/16/2025, 7 engagements
I wish we could direct the TikTok exodus to Nostr, someone should tell them!
1/16/2025, 2 engagements
Why Network States are inevitable if we assume hyperbitcoinization:
1). Nation States are all pretty much bankrupt already.
2). Btc accumulation takes a long time for nation state level actors without the price running away.
3). In a Bitcoin backed world, printing money is no longer an option, therefore current Nation States will get outcompeted due to their wasteful spending. Either they will adopt and become Networks or die.
4). As you can see below, individuals own most of the supply, so we will instantly see the rise of the sovereign individual.

1/13/2025, 15 engagements
The current guardians of the age (oligarchs) are incapable of producing a golden age, therefore we must replace them to maximize the potential of the inevitable Bitcoin age.
1/13/2025, 3 engagements
Finally! May we replace X forever
1/13/2025, 11 engagements